Professor Fabio Vighi and Professor Heiko Feldner are well known for their remarkable research in ?i?ek studies and critical theory, they have co-authored quite many books and articles on the topics related. And now they are co-directors of ?i?ek Center for Ideology Critique at Cardiff University, England. On Sept. 24, during the 5 ^th International Marxist Forum, which hosted by the School of Media and International Culture, Zhejiang University, I got an opportunity to interview them. Our conversation covered a wide range of topics, from ?i?ek to critical theory, then to Lacan and Marx, and so forth.